Engine, Engine, Number Nine Lyrics

Ages 4-9Counting Rhymes

Children in Toronto used this five-line rhyme to choose who is out in a game. The old words run east and west to the cuckoo's nest and end by spelling out the word.

Engine, Engine, Number Nine

Engine, engine, number nine,
Running on Chicago line,
Running east and running west,
Running to the cuckoo's nest.
O-u-t spells out.

Type
Counting Rhymes
Tune
Chanted fast, one beat for each word, with a point at a different child each time
Best for ages
4 to 9 years

Hand Motions and Actions

When you singDo this
Engine, engine, number nineStand in a circle and point at one child on each beat.
Running east and running westKeep pointing round the circle, moving on one child every word.
O-u-t spells outStop on the child the last word lands on; that child steps out.

What Does Engine, Engine, Number Nine Mean?

This is a counting-out rhyme, a chant used to choose a player without arguing. The children stand in a ring, one of them says the rhyme and points to a different child on each beat. Whoever is pointed at on the very last word is out, and the chant starts again with the rest. When only one child is left, that child is it, the chaser or the hider, for the game that follows.

The words are mostly there for the beat. The engine has a number, nine, and runs on the Chicago line, a railroad route; it goes east, then west, then off to the cuckoo's nest, which is a playful place that does not exist on any map. The last line spells the word out letter by letter, so the spelling is also the counting.

History and Origin

The 1918 Journal of American Folk-Lore prints this in an article of Ontario folk-lore by F. W. Waugh, as one of a long run of counting-out rhymes, number 604 in his list, collected in Toronto. The article notes that the rhyme was also collected by W. J. Wintemberg in Oxford County, Ontario, and a footnote gives another way of ending the fourth line: o'er the cuckoo's nest.

The article also quotes two other versions from the Toronto newspaper The Globe, which printed children's counting-out rhymes in November and December 1909. In the one from Perth, Ontario, the engine runs to the lake at half-past eight and is back once more at half-past four. In the one from Thamesville, the last line asks Please tell me the time. When the person asked says a time, that number is counted off round the ring to decide who is out. So the rhyme was already being adapted from place to place more than a century ago.

Learning Activities

  • Count out a game: use the rhyme before hide and seek, pointing once on each word and starting from a different child each time.
  • Clap the beat: clap once on each word before pointing, so the whole group keeps the same speed.
  • Time version: try the Thamesville ending: the child the word time lands on names a number, and the count starts again with that number.
  • Change the number: swap number nine for your own house number or age and see who lands out.

Frequently Asked Questions

How does a counting-out rhyme decide who is it?
The speaker points to one child per beat. The child pointed at on the last word is out, and the rhyme is repeated until one child is left, who is it.
Where was this version collected?
In Toronto, Ontario, and also in Oxford County, Ontario, according to the 1918 article.
What does the cuckoo's nest mean here?
It is just a playful place for the engine to run to. A footnote gives another wording, 'o'er the cuckoo's nest'.
What did children say at the end in Thamesville?
They asked 'Please tell me the time'. The number the person named was counted off to choose who was out.